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There's always a little more of something that someone can learn from. However, an individual needs to realize when it's time to move on and learn about other areas of life.
As far as morality, you'd have to hope that a master would at least feel constrained by the law of the land and would not make the slave commit murder or any other crime. I did know a woman whose master ordered her, for no good reason, to cut off communications with her children. I think (a) that's an abuse of power that she entrusted to him, and (b) if she obeyed that, she is plain stupid and a wuss.

I have to say I am confused by some, what I would call, inconsistencies.
Someone who wants to be in this relationship is going to have to search out a master whose views agree very closely with the slave's, or else serving that person will be a misery.

I do not consider Taken In Hand to be a Master/slave relatiohship. The distinction is clear. In M/s, if a slave says no, the slave is out the door. In a Taken In Hand relationship I get the feeling that if the wife says no, I don't want this anymore, the relationship will simply change to meet the new needs. I seriously doubt that a Taken In Hand husband would show his wife the door if she said she really wanted things to be equal instead.

Confused? Or are just looking to get under my skin, as this is what you are known for and have made quite a few enemies(?) for doing.
"Pat"

1)You told me personally when I first got into the game that you had been a video game nerd and it took you a year of being in the community before you kissed a girl. That doesn't seem to match up with what you've been saying about never needing help getting women.
by a Taken In Hand reader on 2005 May 8 - 14:22 | reply to this comment
Pat's last point
I seriously doubt that a Taken In Hand husband would show his wife the door if she said she really wanted things to be equal instead.

I don't think you are right about this, or not in all cases anyway – I can't imagine that if I were in a Taken In Hand relationship I would be able to live with a change to an equal relationship, so I should think that the same would be true for some Taken In Hand men too – but if you or anyone else would like to argue this point, feel free to submit an article on it to give it its own thread.

Either you're misquoting me, or I may have misspoke. Either way, I meant a year on campus, and I think pretty much everyone knows this. By the time I joined the Ohio Lair, I was already popular and rolling women in. This is evident in one of my "Lost Posts" where I told Chris (Puerto Rico) that we were definitely bringing women home, as I was already use to doing it by then. He joined shortly after I did. This was also around the same time a few of the lair guys would wait at my apartment at night because they knew there was a good chance that I'd be bringing women home. And I believe I have such a story up (One of the Threesomes Gone Wrong stories).
by Sarah Cavendish on 2005 May 8 - 15:21 | reply to this comment
A law of M/s relationships?
Pat wrote:

And to be very straightforward, the reason it took me so long to start pulling campus women was because I was an idiot. As I've mentioned in several posts, I've had quite a few women chase me down, and my problem wasn't gaming them, it was actually getting the balls to approach and/or talk to them. Why is that? Because I am so use to them throwing their selves at me. My ex-wife actually stole me from a girl who stole me from her best friend. And guess who actually said I should divorce my wife and be with her? That's right, another girl. We'll save that story for another day.
In M/s, if a slave says no, the slave is out the door.

Like many guys who get out of serious relationships (Myself, Paul Janka, Razor Jack, Player Supreme), I went through a serious phase where I had to get my mojo back. I went through a divorce, had to deal with my son's medical condition, lost most of my friends, was homeless for a period, and on top of that, I started college and pretty much had to start all over with my life. I went through a period of serious depression.
Is that a rule the master has to obey to be deemed a master in the M/s community, or what?

And you are right, I was, and still am a nerd. Although I haven't played videogames in years, I am very much a book nerd now, which I also pimp out on my Facebook profile. Look, and you'll see that it says I am into "Nerd Stuff" and "Brain Books". Just because a guy is smart and nerdy, doesn't mean he isn't also a player. Tucker Max and Paul Janka are examples of guys who are nerds to one degree or another.
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